Kind of a "work." Beautiful to see, but the judoka knew what was coming I don't think he could have stepped through with the right timing otherwise.
I've seen counters where the thrown person converts being thrown to throwing the other person via a "sacrifice" or similar throw, but there's a lot more time (relatively) to think about the counter throw on the way down.
I worked out with a very kind judo black belt in Thailand in April, and although we were engaging in randori under "jiu jitsu rules" (he didn't object to grips or posture - low crab - that would have been forbidden in judo - I should add "attempted grips) and when he finally threw me it was so blindingly fast I was on the ground before I was even consciously aware he was making an entry. Yes, they ARE that fast.
If judo weren't so damned rough and I weren't so damned old, I'd be doing it.
(There might be another option for me though in terms of getting more standup exposure. I hooked up with a Sambo club via a seminar a couple of weeks ago, and watched them training their throws with their beginners. Their instruction was MUCH more progressive and gentle* - much to my surprise. They did a lot of drills involving timing and a lot of cooperation from the partner. Of course when they start sparring all that could fly out the window, but I'm going to take my first guest class this Sunday.)
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*I may be wrong, but I think they take it slower for beginners to avoid the appalling drop out rate that you have otherwise. The judo clubs have a very hard time attracting and keeping adult students, particularly post-30 students. Also the orientation of most judo clubs is towards the endless tournaments - sometimes 2 or 3 a month - they do, while Sambo, at least in the States, is so rare that there's not "competition pressure." Of course guys will be guys, as I am discovering from jiu jitsu - the common response to ANY threatening attack is to be tougher and rougher, not more technical and precise.
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Kind of a "work." Beautiful to see, but the judoka knew what was coming I don't think he could have stepped through with the right timing otherwise.
I've seen counters where the thrown person converts being thrown to throwing the other person via a "sacrifice" or similar throw, but there's a lot more time (relatively) to think about the counter throw on the way down.
I worked out with a very kind judo black belt in Thailand in April, and although we were engaging in randori under "jiu jitsu rules" (he didn't object to grips or posture - low crab - that would have been forbidden in judo - I should add "attempted grips) and when he finally threw me it was so blindingly fast I was on the ground before I was even consciously aware he was making an entry. Yes, they ARE that fast.
If judo weren't so damned rough and I weren't so damned old, I'd be doing it.
(There might be another option for me though in terms of getting more standup exposure. I hooked up with a Sambo club via a seminar a couple of weeks ago, and watched them training their throws with their beginners. Their instruction was MUCH more progressive and gentle* - much to my surprise. They did a lot of drills involving timing and a lot of cooperation from the partner. Of course when they start sparring all that could fly out the window, but I'm going to take my first guest class this Sunday.)
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*I may be wrong, but I think they take it slower for beginners to avoid the appalling drop out rate that you have otherwise. The judo clubs have a very hard time attracting and keeping adult students, particularly post-30 students. Also the orientation of most judo clubs is towards the endless tournaments - sometimes 2 or 3 a month - they do, while Sambo, at least in the States, is so rare that there's not "competition pressure." Of course guys will be guys, as I am discovering from jiu jitsu - the common response to ANY threatening attack is to be tougher and rougher, not more technical and precise.
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